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Outside influences project Fashion edition 2 by Harpyimages Outside influences project Fashion edition 2 by Harpyimages
Ok, so not everyone is going to like these..

The idea of the outside influences project is to play on the stereotypes about how the media effects children..some of them are..touchy subjects..
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Given 2014-08-24
Harpyimages portrays a truly powerful message in her project on stereotypes and the effect that media has on children. Not only thought-provoking, Outside influences project Fashion edition 2 raises a sensitive, controversial point that many of us should acknowledge. ( Suggested by TimeDevoursALL and Featured by 3wyl )
Grey-Flowers Featured By Owner Edited 8 hours ago  Hobbyist General Artist
Gross. Why would you take a picture of a naked little girl attempting self harm. Is this even aloud on DeviantART?
Harpyimages Featured By Owner 7 hours ago  Hobbyist Photographer
Well, firstly, she isnt naked and her hair covers her chest area.
Secondly I would refer to to my blog post here…
dvcomk Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
EtoAno Featured By Owner Edited Jan 30, 2015  New member Hobbyist General Artist
The media doesn't cause the problem.

Do you think the children wouldn't want to be slimmer, if there wasn't attention to those girls in the medias, but if they saw a slim girl in the street?

It is just reality, not stereotypes.
Reality of the fact, that fragile is beautiful.
As well as flower is more beautiful than mushroom.
But is it caused by many photos of flowers we see around us? No.
Harpyimages Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
Perhaps this would explain my thoughts more clearly..…
The idea was the hypocrisy of the medias reaction to the perceived effects of itself on children.
EtoAno Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2015  New member Hobbyist General Artist
Ok, so is it a caricature on how media tell us, that children DO react this way on them, which really doesn't solve the problem of children being sensitive...?
Is it meant to show this paradox?
Harpyimages Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
It was originally intended just to highlight the hypocrisy of the media in how it reports on the perceived effects of itself, so, the media does have a strong bias as to what it projects as an 'ideal' but that it will on the other hand, report in a sensational way as to the effects of its own influence....

If anything, originally, the image was meant to be a pictoral 'sensational headline' an image, rather than words?
Its only a single image from the 'fashion' set, the others being more  almost aggressive and confrontational in her expression...more challenging..
The other sets for the whole'outside influences' project are meant to do a similar thing, to caricature the situation in an over the top extreme way, in the same way the media has a habit of reporting?
EtoAno Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2015  New member Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah I searched it up. The pictures are funny :)

Ok, I still think that the desire to be slimmer is ... natural.

But some other stereotypes (big boobs, makeup, blond curly hair, making representative from ONE person (Emma Watson was talking about that somewhere - love her) are disgusting.

That is one of the reasons btw, why I like Japanese culture, because they don't have that much stereotypes (maybe of cuteness) and can appreciate... more types.

But I don't sence this pressure (of media s.t.) that much since the time I (I think) avoided it, and started to look behind the curtains.

I think the real cure to this is just trying to see the truth and going deeper...

Thank you for your answers!
dvcomk Featured By Owner Jan 29, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
You are doing it wrong, it's all about eating less. People use to work hard on fitness to get a slim body and make this kind of photo like spoiled child who owns everything making drama won't help much.
Harpyimages Featured By Owner Edited Jan 30, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
You have lost me I am afraid? The concept was to play on media stereotypes and perceptions .....
As for the comment about eating less,yes you are goes a long way for many..but the child in the image isn't overweight..that was very much part of the concept idea,that 'she' feels she is ..?

Unless you are of course referring to myself..all 120lbs soaking wet of me...
dvcomk Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
I have a girlfriend that is very out of slim standard...
Actualy, I am not..
But I don't like sometimes the way it is treated by media.
Nowdays, to sell produtcts, brands says: DO WHATEVER YOU WANT! BUY MY BRAND!
So... overweight is not good for health, for heart... and for self estimate.
Treat well own body trying to keep it as much beautiful as possible is good for people and they should learn it since they are kid to get used to keep itself in good shape!
But some selfish mothers that had been lazy try to input on they daughter's mind that beauty don't exist and they must to be fat and happy, obviously that this kind of behaviour will have only one victm, the child that will grow and become frustrated.
There is NO beauty standard as people says... a woman can be chubby and sexy... tall and sexy, short and sexy... but they must at least treat themselves with a minimum of care (beeing sincerly)
No mother will change the world to understand her laziness and her daughter (unless many try to do that)... It's easy and better educate kids to live on real world and get the best of it.
I'm a man.... different to a woman i had other challenges.. like be watched with a very hi-level of obligations... that can be really stressful, someimes impossible to stand... and I had three choices:
1 - Hope the world changes
2 - Learn to deal with that and accept
3 - Jump on the wild among others and try to imput my personality as a lion and win as much as I can.
(I think I mexed option 2 and 3) But this stuff of cry and lament because of what others think was not an option for me.. and I think for the others shouldn't as well.
But this is just my humble unique opinion about archive happiness ;)
Have a nice day.
Harpyimages Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
Again I am not sure I fully understand you...
The trying to keep healthy I understand and agree with,whatever body shape you may be..but this image was a mockery of the media's hypocrisy and part of a larger series of sets of images based around that..
The project was a collaboration with my daughter,for no other reason than we felt it one we wanted to shoot,no ideas of changing the world or others perceptions on that..just our own 'take' on talks we had had?
dvcomk Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2015  Hobbyist Photographer
I had think a lot about that on last years, world is peculiar...
Some people want to say that beauty don't exist and it's all social standards, but it's not just that easy...
Beauty exist and it's a tallent... easier than fight against that is learn how to accept it.
I love music and I really dreamed about to be a musician but I have no talent for that.  Although I had try hard (really hard) to play instruments it was really hard for me to play like a Pro. And then I look for videos of 4 years old child plaing way better than me and I say: "IT IS NOT FAIR!!!" Why people don't like my limited way of playing? So I had the oportunity to just hate good musicians and try to obligate people to accept my way of playing saying it's not bad but different.
It would be harder and full of frustration.
Better than this was just accept the fact it's not for me, but this is not sad if I learn to ADMIRE music. Today I love to see others playing and I don't feel envy or opressed.
I think it's the same with beauty (because i had same problem). I didn't born beautiful according to brazilian standards (where i live)... but instead to fight with that I can admire beauty and it's what I do, I am a photographer and i always photograph beautiful people and i enjoy it. Actually i don´t need to be beautiful for the world but just for one person (my girlfriend) and this is quite easy... (to be beautiful to everyone would be hard and impossible).
So, I don't like when people say some things about beauty standard because many people just was born on that standard by lucky and they sometimes have only that advantage in life... while others are not beautiful but can be smart, have dozen gifts, rich, simpathic, or many other things...
The world don't have just standards for beauty but for many things.
Some people born with the tallent of making money and this is very important, but most of people don't have this tallent, should all them be comunist or just learn to live on the same world full of differences? Actualy most of countries where people comit suicide are the richest countries so sometimes a tallent comes with a curse as well.
About your photo, I saw a few overreaction about media. I work too with advertisement and if I have to deal with a model, I preffer a beautiful model, no one obligates me, no one tell me to do that, there is no common conspirance, I just preffer to use a beautiful landscape with a beautiful house with a beautiful dog with a beautiful meal and don't be forced to ruin it all with an ugly person. That's not media evil.. .but just the behaviour anyone would have of try to make things as better as possible, because if I workd with a model I want she is a very proffessional with her body (that is her tool) not someone who don't give a shit for my work and want to use my job for prostests or other things.
I don't say your photo is bad, not at all, that's very interessant.. but it made me say my opinion that perhaps it's not the STANDARD OPINION OF NOWDAYS that could be much more accepted.
Had you think about that? I feel pressure of media and people to accept this idea as well and it's not easy for me to have my own opinion about this subject.
if you check the coments, perhaps my comment is the only one that don't supports you... should I cry for that and claim others support me or just behave nice with others opinion? Not just beauty have a standard, EVERYTHING on society have standars we must to live with and we do. That's what I am trying to say.
My real dream would be to have tallent to be a football (soccer) player, like Neymar or Pelé... or have a body like He-Man... or have super powers like Superman... but men don't use to cry for that things. I just like He-Man when I was kid and Aryton Senna and Pelé, Neymar without freak out for what media says about them...
They all are on the top so they are models for the rest.. this doesn't mean I need to be EQUAL or BETTER, but just have a model to have a point of comparison and this is not bad........... at all. It's just a referece. The problem is on the people who get mad because Media talk about them all the time.
Tiancum Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
this is so powerful!! ugh! so sad that society is this way! this poster should be everywhere.
raro Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
great concept. really.
mimikascraftroom Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2014   Digital Artist
Powerful, brilliant photo! Congratulations!
Moodlight14 Featured By Owner Edited Nov 28, 2014
Wow! what a sad reality of the truth here, the corrupt media again brainwashing young minds into a "false unobtainable" Photoshopped fashion world! :(

Our "true identity" has been stolen before our very eyes!
Abrechnung Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
I'm just able to smile melancholic.
I once thought, that would be the best for me too.
and i'm not even fat, just 3-4 kilos over the "Ideal Weight".
Fortunately i've learned it. 
That' sick.Nod 
Harpyimages Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Finding stuff like this titled 'society is ugly' taken after this one went viral is a mix of..aww bless, thank you..and wft though  o.O
Linked, since I dont want to use it without her permission as such..…
jessmicheline33 Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2014
i was wondering if i could use this image on my blog? i will credit you of course, i am currently writing a piece on body image and this photo is so powerful. 
brassteeth Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2014
LiliWrites Featured By Owner Oct 18, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
This is so much win. (The art, not the stereotype. :lol:

:+favlove: Congrats on a marvelously well earned DD!
DFSergent Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2014
This is so hard to look at....but, I know that's the point.

Thanks for making and posting this.
AliceFlame Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2014
Just letting you knoww
Harpyimages Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
appreciated, thank you
WolfLady Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Omg! This is one of the most powerfull pictures I have ever seen. Love it! Great work!
TheSilentRunner Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
It sucks that I see this all over and nobody is giving you credit. It is a wonderful piece. 
DianaRiceArt Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This wonderful piece of art has been found here :…

I have asked them to give you credit, being the owner of this art. :)
Darkwrath016 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2014
To those people who are saying that they see a weak minded child let me just inform you of one thing: She's a child. Children are very impressionable. A child's brain is still developing and will continue to develop for quite some time. It's only natural that she (and I'm not just limiting this to little girls) wishes to copy whatever she sees. And that's something that all of us, whether we are five or sixty five- are guilty of.
Moodlight14 Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014
Who said they see a weak minded person? :/
ai-no-tsubasa Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Lady-Aikyo Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2014
Nice work!
LeRoyBreeze Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2014
Very powerful!
I love your mind!
Perfection! In my book.
leoajax Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2014
Man, this picture is amazing, not only on photography, but even better on content, such a perfect approach on stereotypes and social pressure... I just put it on my whatsapp profile, hope you don't mind... So crude... So real...
alexclaude1 Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2014
Man, did you know this image got stolen all around the web and nobody is crediting you????

I just googled search it because someone posted it on their facbeook page and was wondering who it was from.…
Harpyimages Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Sadly yes, I think my cease and desist copy n paste is going to have to work overtime..
If you DO see it about..and it isnt credited, a link to my DA would be bloody marvelous
oCrystal Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Someone re-posted this to imgur:
It made the front page XD
Harpyimages Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Imma gunna have to don my tin hat..bets are there will be more than a little roasting o.O
I didnt ever think it would have this kind of..'notoriety'? its bloody weird..
oCrystal Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Eh alot of the more awful comments got negative downvotes (meaning they are basically placed into a negative unhappy comments section) alot of it is actually positive and basically what was shared here on DA ^^
This picture is one of my new found personal favorites from when it got the DD, huge surprise when I saw it on imgur this morning and I commented linking it back here ^u^
eclpise8dream Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2014
Very powerful & sad. 
Sk8terChild Featured By Owner Sep 1, 2014  Student General Artist
This hit me hard... really hard.

I'm practically a twig, not because I wanted to be, but I was just born like that. I don't eat a lot because I'm never that hungry, and the fact that I take medication to help me with my ADD (side effects of course including lowered appetite), does not help. It made me develop this habit for a period of time where if I gain just a tiny bit of body fat in a short period of time, I freak out, thinking that if I change at this pace, I'll become huge in no time, so I end up eating even less until it goes away. I'm very weak, smaller than average for my age group, and I normally wish I can be like everybody else.
The girls at my old school would always be jealous of me and be like "OMG YOU SO SKINNY B PROUD OF ET. SU MANY GERLS WISH THAY CUN HAV UR BOD. I IS SU FAT I WAN 2 B LIEK U. Y U NO APRECIATE UR BOD?" even though most of them are average weight, height, etc.
In my mind, I would always respond "Says the bloody hypocrite who can't appreciate their own perfectly healthy body. I think you would regret saying that once you try walking in my tiny shoes for a freaking day."
TomRiddlesBride19 Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Omg...i feel so sorry for you..maybe if you're older and grow up things change! :) just don't be so sad about these girls..that's All fishing for compliments..

I'm overweighted and i'll devently want to exchange with you..
I'm really really sorry for you :,(

Wish you best luck and that you gain more weight ;)
TomRiddlesBride19 Featured By Owner Sep 2, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oh i did mean "i'll devently don't want to exchange with you"
Erynnsilver Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, I recently saw this image on facebook and had to track the artist down to let you know, in case you didn't already, that you are a genius. The message is horrible and disturbing but the image is still beautiful. That makes it all the more effective in its horror. IT's beautiful, on all levels.
warkentien2 Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2014  Student General Artist
brutal [hats off]
badasstatguy Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
I was so blown away by this image that I posted it on my Facebook.  I apologize that I did not ask you first (after reading your journal today), however, I did credit you as the photographer.  In just a few days it has been shared over 5600 times, and the message has been well received.  One girl messaged me and told me that this expressed what she has not been able to put into words about how she has felt most of her life.  Her desperation to feel beautiful according to society's "norms" has led her to suffer from body image dismorphia and eating disorders.   It was reported for nudity, reviewed, and not removed, thankfully.  If there is an issue and you would like to remove it from FB I will reluctantly do so.

Thank you!
Harpyimages Featured By Owner Aug 31, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
I doubt that I would ask you to remove it, you at least credited me (many havent)..and given how it seems many are relating/feeling/reacting to it I am hoping that in some tiny way its helped a few, even to just realise they were not alone in their thoughts.
A link to your facebook would be nice though, so I could see :)
tatatototiti Featured By Owner Edited Aug 29, 2014
I never, never, never, never, NEVER know a girl, child or adult, who say: "I feel bad, because I see a girl more beautyfull than me in a magasin". You know so much people that feel that to feel the need to make this picture?? And, why you always do this kind of pictures with girls? Why you don't take a boy with an comic book? (superman, batman, spiderman, ironman)??? a hero with big muscles, so powerfull (even in the name you feel inferior: "super" man), you think is a good influences for boys? I HATE feminists with her one-direction-narrow-vision. Sorry for my english.

...(personnaly for me is not a problem superman or girls magazines, because they are not symbols, only entertainement).
PorcelainMalice Featured By Owner Aug 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I dont think its something most people would even admit. Yes, it makes some feel bad and self conscious to extreme. However, just because they dont say it outloud, doesnt mean its absolutely isnt so. Most people seem to express this in some sort of way without actually openly admitting it. Thats likely WHY you dont know any girl, child or adult that 'say' that. Because most people dont.
Harpyimages Featured By Owner Edited Aug 29, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
The only reasn I did not use a boy, was because I dont have a son to work with, had I , then I would have shot a concept along these lines with him..
Its certainly not a feminist issue, more that I have four daughters and no sons.
and as for knowing many people who felt like this image portrays, yes, sadly I know way to many..and given how open and honest people have been in the comments so far, they are not the only ones..
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